Snow Queens and PoC
i hope you dont mind i used this blog to get information for a persuasive essay "why frozen did not deserve best animated film of 2013" i'll credit of course, thanks for the awesome links in the FAQ

Haha, if you are allowed to use this blog as a resource. Lol I don’t mind!

So is Bollywood (all Indian characters) and anime/manga (primarily all Asian characters) racist/prejudiced, too? (not trying to offend, I'm honestly curious and would like to learn)

Frozen is made by an American company, you are following the notion all Americans are white. I am Mexican American  and I can assure that is not the case.

nikston:

Elsa - The Fire Queen by Nikston

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gogogadgetgoatkins:

the-unpopular-opinions:

I really wish people on this site would stop speaking on behalf of the Sami culture. I am Sami. I was born and raised in Norway (Where Frozen takes place.) I know alot of other Sami people. I am white and blonde. I look like Kristoff. Most of my Sami friends are also white. We are white. When people say that Disney “fucked up” by making Kristoff white because “they aren’t white” it hurts me because I am and a lot of other people are too.     Most of my Sami friends- most Sami that I know, actually (Not that I’m speaking for everyone, just from my experience living in Norway and growing up around other Samis) loved this movie. I LOVE that they had a Sami composer come in to do the intro. I LOVED all the little references to our culture. I didn’t feel “cheapened” or “appropriated” or whatever people are trying to say. Our own president, Aili Keskitalo, LOVED the movie. The movie is going to be shown at Skábmagovat, a Sámi movie festival in Finland. Most of us (from what I’ve gathered) really liked this movie.    You all tell white, straight, cis people to “check their privilege” and to “not speak on behalf of PoC,” but so many people who are not of my culture are speaking on behalf of us and I find it very hypocritical. Most of you had never even heard of the Sami culture until this film.     So please. Put down the virtual pitchforks and just enjoy the movie. 

That’s really cool and all, but there are a lot of us (Saami) who don’t like it. A lot (A LOT) of Saami have spoken out about the bad job it did representing us, that Kristoff is never called Saami in the movie, and that Disney took a yoik, put it with a hymn, and then got non-Saami people to sing it. Also, not all of us are white. Yeah, a lot of us are, but POC Saami need better representation, and at our roots Saami weren’t white. Shit, Saami aren’t really seen as ‘proper’ white by a lot of shitty bigoted people. It’s really really problematic that non-Saami people are talking for Saami people, and it’s problematic that people like me who are Saami by blood but not raised Saami are going on massive things about Frozen, for or against. It’s also really shitty though to act like because you like it there aren’t any problems with it and that all other Saami people are wrong for taking issue. We aren’t one homogeneous group, you’re allowed to like it and I’m allowed to hate it and talk about why I hate it. You’rs is just, at this point, problematic because you are shutting down and trying to shut up those of us who are not comfortable with it, and that isn’t cool.Also, really? Hurt because someone said a character shouldn’t be white? go outside, consume media for 30 minutes, it’ll be okay, literally just about everything caters to white people.The person I most read and have learned from about what is wrong with Frozen. He is born South Saami and raised South Saami.
And woah, someone who is a POC and Saami. Whaaaaat.

gogogadgetgoatkins:

the-unpopular-opinions:

I really wish people on this site would stop speaking on behalf of the Sami culture. I am Sami. I was born and raised in Norway (Where Frozen takes place.) I know alot of other Sami people. I am white and blonde. I look like Kristoff. Most of my Sami friends are also white. We are white. When people say that Disney “fucked up” by making Kristoff white because “they aren’t white” it hurts me because I am and a lot of other people are too.
    Most of my Sami friends- most Sami that I know, actually (Not that I’m speaking for everyone, just from my experience living in Norway and growing up around other Samis) loved this movie. I LOVE that they had a Sami composer come in to do the intro. I LOVED all the little references to our culture. I didn’t feel “cheapened” or “appropriated” or whatever people are trying to say. Our own president, Aili Keskitalo, LOVED the movie. The movie is going to be shown at Skábmagovat, a Sámi movie festival in Finland. Most of us (from what I’ve gathered) really liked this movie.
    You all tell white, straight, cis people to “check their privilege” and to “not speak on behalf of PoC,” but so many people who are not of my culture are speaking on behalf of us and I find it very hypocritical. Most of you had never even heard of the Sami culture until this film. 
    So please. Put down the virtual pitchforks and just enjoy the movie. 

That’s really cool and all, but there are a lot of us (Saami) who don’t like it. A lot (A LOT) of Saami have spoken out about the bad job it did representing us, that Kristoff is never called Saami in the movie, and that Disney took a yoik, put it with a hymn, and then got non-Saami people to sing it. Also, not all of us are white. Yeah, a lot of us are, but POC Saami need better representation, and at our roots Saami weren’t white. Shit, Saami aren’t really seen as ‘proper’ white by a lot of shitty bigoted people. 

It’s really really problematic that non-Saami people are talking for Saami people, and it’s problematic that people like me who are Saami by blood but not raised Saami are going on massive things about Frozen, for or against. It’s also really shitty though to act like because you like it there aren’t any problems with it and that all other Saami people are wrong for taking issue. We aren’t one homogeneous group, you’re allowed to like it and I’m allowed to hate it and talk about why I hate it. You’rs is just, at this point, problematic because you are shutting down and trying to shut up those of us who are not comfortable with it, and that isn’t cool.
Also, really? Hurt because someone said a character shouldn’t be white? go outside, consume media for 30 minutes, it’ll be okay, literally just about everything caters to white people.

The person I most read and have learned from about what is wrong with Frozen. He is born South Saami and raised South Saami.

And woah, someone who is a POC and Saami. Whaaaaat.

raspbeary:

ive been listening to the korean version of  ’let it go’ all day long and so i was like man how cool would it be if frozen took place in korea and thats how this sloppy ass sketch came to be

raspbeary:

ive been listening to the korean version of  ’let it go’ all day long and so i was like man how cool would it be if frozen took place in korea and thats how this sloppy ass sketch came to be

Is it okay for someone to cosplay Kristoff? Would it be okay/better if the cosplayer wore different clothes than the ones Kristoff wore in the movie or no?

I’m not Sami so I don’t know.

Why should movies cater to PoC?

Why should movies cater to white people?

bethanycassel:

Hey thiscouldhavebeenfrozen, Gypsy Thornton from Once Upon a Blog did a post about theatrical Snow Queen productions in the wake of the announcement that “Frozen” was heading to Broadway.  The images she shared of the ART’s production showed a multiracial cast, including a black Gerda!  The production looks absolutely stunning, so I thought I’d share it.

The words of the Norwegian Sámi President

Hi again, “Vent” here

I’m not going to say a negative word about “Selchie Productions”. As a Sámi I appricate what he says he’s doing in his community. I’m just here because he quoted our President (not his President, since he is a Swedish Sámi and they have another President - Finland/Norway/Sweden each has its own Sámi President) in a way that I think represents her words poorly.

In his post, the statementbut often we experience that stories about us are being told by others than ourselves”” was depicted as having something to do with “Frozen”. I’m just going to give our President’s words in full, please bear with me (http://www.sametinget.no/Om-Sametinget/Organisasjonsstruktur/Sametingsraadet/Sametingspresidentens-nyttaarstale):

 In 2013 South Sámi Frode Fjellheim was invited to participate with music on Disney’s animated, new major film “Frozen”. The yoik Eatnamen Vuelie and Fjellheim’s musical talent now makes a whole world listen to yoik. We see the same in other cultural expressions. Sámi culture keeps gaining new audiences.

Our culture is rooted in the areas and settlements we have traditionally used. Therefore we are suggesting to UNESCO four cultural heritage areas in Varanger to be protected as common world heritage places. The nature around us “remembers” and tells the Sámi story through ancient objects, place names, legends and contemporary stories

Although often we experience that the stories about us are told by others than ourselves. They are told through critical political rhetorics, through media scandals, and through the merciless commentary sections of online newspapers. They are also told through silence, through what is not said about us in schools and on other public arenas. Any people wants to be respected for the best, the dearest, and the most beautiful parts of their culture. So do we.

The speech goes on to praise artists and activists working for Sámi culture and community, giving special mention to the people working for more acceptance of gay and lesbian Sámi within the Sámi community. It is a very good and progressive speech. Our President does not deserve to have her words broken up and reassembled to support a different political point than she is trying to make. “Surprisingly”, the main body of her speech did not concern a Disney movie - but what she did say about the movie was appreciative of it. Agree with her or not, that was what she said.

Apart from that, I’d just like to say one thing. Look, “Selchie Productions” is entitled to his opinion, but it would be nice if people didn’t just latch on to one blog and shout “this is the opinion of the Sámi”. We have different opinions. Everyone I know feel that the movie misrepresented parts of our culture in that it Disneyfied and simplified our culture - but they also feel that this is not much of a problem since the misrepresentation was not done in insulting ways. The main feeling around this film, judging by every Sámi I know, is that it’s sorta nice that we go see a Disney movie and our music opens the film, and we can see nods to our culture throughout.  The whole thing about there not being people of color in the movie is a separate issue, which I’m personally sort of sorry we got mixed up into.

Anyway: It would be nice if you could put this out there, so that our President’s words are given in full

Sincerely

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I’d like to thank you, once again, for keeping up this blog. I’ve sent you asks and the like before, but seeing all the hate you’ve gotten over your opinions on (that mediocre MESS) Frozen, I just thought I’d send my support again!

While not entirely relevant, I just started an independent audio drama starring female POC, and I’d love to know what you think. If you have the time/desire to listen, of course. It can be found here aenyothername.com/eyeslikeyours

Thanks for keeping this blog running even against some nasty anons. It’s so necessary for people to point out problematic media, ESPECIALLY when it’s popular media!